Philosophy

Philosophy, Itself

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1.   Jul 13, 2006 11:59 AM

» pink101 - A Sampler

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Philosophy, itself, seems more like an undergraduate pursuit that samples the varieties of life views various people, societies, and other groups have had than it does the study of our own situation.
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Is there a study in the schools of philosophy that commits itself to our current situation?
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Doesn't Heidegger call for a return to Plato?
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2.   Jul 14, 2006 1:51 PM

» RLSharp - A Sampler

In response to A Sampler posted by pink101:

Well, philosophy itself, as you call it, is undergraduate insofar as the main writers are things undergraduates study. However, there are a lot of philosophers working in current areas of interest. There are a lot getting involved in the debate over the war, or the environment, and such. Also, political philosophy is still very strong, and many of our political views (and our politicians) are influenced by various philosophers.

Isaiah Berlin, whom we talked about in the other thread, only died a few years back. John Rawls has been writing about justice theory and has a lot of followers.

Heidegger is a special case, because he noticed a decline in philosophy. He wasn't calling on us to be like Plato in our views, but to be like him in our approach. He wants us to really be intellectually honest. Instead, we have a tendency to push our agendas. In other words, we don't question our own views, we question everyone else's. That's against the spirit of philosophy.

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3.   Jul 14, 2006 5:40 PM

» pink101 - View Of Life

In response to A Sampler posted by RLSharp:

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Evryone has their own yiew of life. Isn't my view of life, my philosophy? Isn't your view of life your philosophy?
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My sense on what Heidegger said about Plato is that I thought he meant we should use Plato work as a stepping off place for our studies. Heidegger's views make a lot of sense to me. I certainly question my beliefs. Sometimes we learn where we err when we try to defend our thoughts. So, defending what we think is true might be a good practice.
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4.   Jul 16, 2006 9:57 AM

» RLSharp - View Of Life

In response to View Of Life posted by pink101:

It's a fine line. I would say your view of life is not really a philosophy, unless you can back it up in some way. Philosophy is not just opinion; it is reasoned argument. Now the reasons may be flawed, even wrong. But what separates philosophy from views of life is the attempt to prove it, to defend it through actual argumentation.

So, a statement that you think family is important is not really a philosophy, except in the very loose, casual sense of the term. To be an actual philosophy, you would need reasons and arguments about why family is important.

Defending what we think is true is good, especially if we take that defense seriously. In other words, if we really want to know whether we are right, then that sort of defense is a good thing. If we are just screaming at someone who doesn't agree with us, that's not so good, or at least not philosophical. Plato believed in a dialectic, in arguing in order to reach understanding. But for that to work there needs to be some openess to the truth.

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5.   Jul 16, 2006 10:06 AM

» pink101 - View Of Life

In response to View Of Life posted by RLSharp:

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Thanks for answering my questions with care. I appreciate that.
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You used the word, good, several times in your post.
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I'm preparing a short paper on what I see as the general thinking of Plato in his dialogues on what it means to be a "good" citizen. I would like to read your response. I could post it or email it to you whichever works best. It may qualify as an article for discussion in its own thread.
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6.   Jul 16, 2006 11:58 AM

» RLSharp - View Of Life

In response to View Of Life posted by pink101:

I'm a big fan of the Republic and Plato's ideas on this, so I'd be happy to read it. You can send it to bacchusapoll@yahoo.com (my yahoo account...based on Nietzsche's writings, if you are curious) or post it. You might want to post it either way, so you can get more feedback on it.

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7.   Jul 16, 2006 12:18 PM

» pink101 - Sent by email

In response to View Of Life posted by RLSharp:

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It's in your inbox now.

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8.   Jul 16, 2006 1:20 PM

» pink101 - View Of Life

In response to View Of Life posted by RLSharp:

This address, bacchusapoll@yahoo.com . doesn't work.

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9.   Jul 16, 2006 1:23 PM

» pink101 - View Of Life

In response to View Of Life posted by RLSharp:

This address, acchusapoll@yahoo.com, doesn't work.

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10.   Jul 16, 2006 7:16 PM

» RLSharp - View Of Life

In response to View Of Life posted by pink101:

My bad. I left an o off the end. It should be bacchusapollo@yahoo.com. Sorry about that.

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