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» RLSharp - Greeat Thinkers?

In response to Greeat Thinkers? posted by pink101:

The site is here:

http://greatthinkers.suite101.com/

However, it doesn't look like he has updated it in a while...not sure why. There may have been a problem with the switchover to the new outlook (here on the suite101).

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» RLSharp - Heidegger

In response to Greeat Thinkers? posted by RLSharp:

What about Heidegger in particular do you like? Is it his total philosophy or a certain point he makes?

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» pink101 - Heidegger

In response to Heidegger posted by RLSharp:

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I like the way he explains the idea of being. Is ontological the correct word to use? I've read Robert Kegan (Check out his profile at this link: http://hugse9.harvard.edu/gsedata/resour... ) and he seems to be down a similar path and I'm in strong agreement with him in his book, The Evolving Self; Harvard University Press; ISBN 0-674-27231-6. As a cultural people we seem to have a big problem with philosophy. I've not read a great deal of Heidegger only an easy book I picked up a Barnes and Noble two years ago. I could use some direction.

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» pink101 - Heidegger

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I think Heidegger called it, Daesin, which has to do with the other word he uses, Being. I seem to like what I have learned about his think so far. But, I have--by no means--gained more than a passing understanding.
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I'd like to learn more about his ideas.
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» pink101 - Collins & Selina

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My only understanding of Heidegger comes to me through the book, Introducing Heidegger by Jeff Collins and Howard Selina; Totem Books, 1998.
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Finding ANYone with whom one can discuss ANY philosoper is almost impossible. Why do you think that seems to be the case?
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» pink101 - Collins & Selina

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I guess my point about liking Heidegger has more to do with his way of interpreting reality than it has to do with his personal choices. I don't know enough about Germany's National Socialism to make any judgements on those ideas. Apparently there was a lot of good in their programs in spite of the obvious errors in their political methods. That seems to be the problem of radical conservatism.
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» RLSharp - Heidegger's life

In response to Collins & Selina posted by pink101:

Well, Heidegger's most famous work is probably Being and Time, but it's a tough read. He is a very obtuse writer, not because he means to be, I don't think. Instead, the subject matter is just very difficult. He's generally labeled an existentialist, which is a topic I very much want to discuss at some point. However, it requires some background in philosophy first, so I have been waiting before tackling it.

As for his personal life, many people were caught up in the Nazi movement when it was first gaining steam in the 30s. Even during the war, before people realized the genocide program, the Nazis had a lot of sympathizers. Many saw them as the New World Order, which was seen as a good thing. They were going to recreate the idea of hard working, ideal people, where ideal is about self-actualizing. This fit in perfectly with Heidegger. Even their political methods were often seen as proper, given the need to lead people in the right direction who would not otherwise do the right thing. Actually, that was Berlin's concern with positive liberty. He thought even the Nazis had taken something like that path, of forcing people to do the right thing (by Nazi standards) because it would make them better people.

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» pink101 - Heidegger's life

In response to Heidegger's life posted by RLSharp:

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Great ideas seem to get short shrift. Some of what I read about Heidegger claims he is the greatest thinker of the twentieth century. Then everything goes down the drain when someone comes along and says he was associated with the Hitler movement. His idea about churches being moseleums where God is entombed doesn't seem to add a great deal of respect to his work. But, his philosophy seems to be so right on that it is hard to deny as a good way to percieve reality. It seems like Heidegger has almost become a forbidden person to study. ???
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So what are you recommending as prerequisite?
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» RLSharp - What to read

In response to Heidegger's life posted by pink101:

Well, it depends on what you want. If you are interested in questions of Being, I would jump right into Being and Time. It's hard, but I always prefer primary sources to secondary commentaries. The talk about Dasein is in Being and Time.

However, the saying about churches being tombs for God is really found in Nietzsche. If you are interested in that aspect, I would recommend reading Nietzsche instead, since he is clearer. He also has similar ideas about how we should live our lives. I think an understanding of Nietzsche is a great help to understanding Hiedegger. Beyond Good and Evil would be a good place to start with Nietzsche, IMO.

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» pink101 - What to read

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I'm going to brush up on Plato/Socrates for now.
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